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	<title>Comments on: Journeying vs. Guided Meditation</title>
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		<title>By: therioshamanism</title>
		<link>http://therioshamanism.com/2008/09/10/journeying-vs-guided-meditation/#comment-638</link>
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		<description>Solo--The radio signal comparison is a good one; makes sense in the context of what I&#039;ve been experiencing. As for shapeshifting, I&#039;ll probably practice that once I&#039;ve got more footing there, but it&#039;s nice to know I&#039;m not the only one who has a tougher time.

Dale--Thank you for the corroboration!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solo&#8211;The radio signal comparison is a good one; makes sense in the context of what I&#8217;ve been experiencing. As for shapeshifting, I&#8217;ll probably practice that once I&#8217;ve got more footing there, but it&#8217;s nice to know I&#8217;m not the only one who has a tougher time.</p>
<p>Dale&#8211;Thank you for the corroboration!</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
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		<description>Yup, it&#039;s pretty similar to the way I see it. Meditation is done from within the normative realm, looking beyond, perhaps. 

Journeying, on the other hand, is done from within other realms. You are actually somewhere on the &quot;other side&quot; when you are journeying. It is only to be expected that things work differently there.

To be sure, things are a LOT more intense on a journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, it&#8217;s pretty similar to the way I see it. Meditation is done from within the normative realm, looking beyond, perhaps. </p>
<p>Journeying, on the other hand, is done from within other realms. You are actually somewhere on the &#8220;other side&#8221; when you are journeying. It is only to be expected that things work differently there.</p>
<p>To be sure, things are a LOT more intense on a journey.</p>
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		<title>By: mythicanine</title>
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		<description>I always tend to think that the &quot;world&quot; associated with guided meditation is more like an autonomous zone of sorts--at least that&#039;s how I tend to think of it.  When in any of the other worlds, the totems and other entities are more in their element, on their own turf, so to speak.  You are now largely in their zone--a zone where they primarily live and where they have the most influence.  On their turf, as you said.

As for shapeshifting, it is much harder there, I noticed.  I &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; and do assume more than one form in those places, but it takes far more concentration and discipline to doso, and sometimes some amount of preplanning.  Otherwise, the &quot;forms&quot; I tend to default to are white canine-thing, or androgynous human-shaped thing.  Tangent for another time I guess.

&lt;i&gt;I wonder if there’s a spiritual counterpart, something that gets left behind when a totem or other spirit leaves to go to a neutral place, or to visit here through evocation/etc.?&lt;/i&gt;

Sometimes I see it as a sort of projection, or stretching.  Hm.  Hard to explain, because I&#039;m somewhat trying to explain this in synaesthetic concepts.  But I guess you can think of it as a radio signal that is always strongest at it&#039;s source or something.

~Solo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always tend to think that the &#8220;world&#8221; associated with guided meditation is more like an autonomous zone of sorts&#8211;at least that&#8217;s how I tend to think of it.  When in any of the other worlds, the totems and other entities are more in their element, on their own turf, so to speak.  You are now largely in their zone&#8211;a zone where they primarily live and where they have the most influence.  On their turf, as you said.</p>
<p>As for shapeshifting, it is much harder there, I noticed.  I <i>can</i> and do assume more than one form in those places, but it takes far more concentration and discipline to doso, and sometimes some amount of preplanning.  Otherwise, the &#8220;forms&#8221; I tend to default to are white canine-thing, or androgynous human-shaped thing.  Tangent for another time I guess.</p>
<p><i>I wonder if there’s a spiritual counterpart, something that gets left behind when a totem or other spirit leaves to go to a neutral place, or to visit here through evocation/etc.?</i></p>
<p>Sometimes I see it as a sort of projection, or stretching.  Hm.  Hard to explain, because I&#8217;m somewhat trying to explain this in synaesthetic concepts.  But I guess you can think of it as a radio signal that is always strongest at it&#8217;s source or something.</p>
<p>~Solo</p>
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