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	<description>All spiritual life begins with a sense of wonder, and nature is a window into that wonder. - Richard Louv</description>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://therioshamanism.com/2012/04/25/poison-oak-as-totem/#comment-3759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 05:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider Neahkahnie Mountain and then call me/us.  :oD  We are here in her shadow.  Look up the phone number codes for the area in Manzanita, Oregon and then you can find me at that area code at 6096.  Hugs....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider Neahkahnie Mountain and then call me/us.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> D  We are here in her shadow.  Look up the phone number codes for the area in Manzanita, Oregon and then you can find me at that area code at 6096.  Hugs&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: therioshamanism</title>
		<link>http://therioshamanism.com/2012/04/25/poison-oak-as-totem/#comment-3753</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really ought to head out that way; there are huge sections of the coastline I simply haven&#039;t had a chance to see yet! Thank you for the invite!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really ought to head out that way; there are huge sections of the coastline I simply haven&#8217;t had a chance to see yet! Thank you for the invite!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://therioshamanism.com/2012/04/25/poison-oak-as-totem/#comment-3738</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 02:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And you are in PDX!  Happy day!  My son and I were exploring the spirit properties of Poison Oak as a plant like Devil&#039;s Club and Ocotillo...all about helping us sensitive folks with our boundaries.  This being said as we treat his terrible outbreak of poison oak with clay and herbs.  Wow!  the poison oak goddess was REALLY trying to get his attention!  he may go back and make an essence to honor this powerful ally.  Anyway, saw your post and then realized you are in Oregon too....we are on the coast in Nehalem and doing a lot of shamanic work here.  Come visit sometime!  :oD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you are in PDX!  Happy day!  My son and I were exploring the spirit properties of Poison Oak as a plant like Devil&#8217;s Club and Ocotillo&#8230;all about helping us sensitive folks with our boundaries.  This being said as we treat his terrible outbreak of poison oak with clay and herbs.  Wow!  the poison oak goddess was REALLY trying to get his attention!  he may go back and make an essence to honor this powerful ally.  Anyway, saw your post and then realized you are in Oregon too&#8230;.we are on the coast in Nehalem and doing a lot of shamanic work here.  Come visit sometime!  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> D</p>
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		<title>By: Corsen</title>
		<link>http://therioshamanism.com/2012/04/25/poison-oak-as-totem/#comment-3658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 14:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We also have to respect it - people who are immune can develop an allergy to it (and people who are allergic can develop tolerance).  The lesson I take is to be grateful and not flaunt my good fortune (&#039;cause the day I start ripping it up with my bare hands just to show I can will be the day that luck changes...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also have to respect it &#8211; people who are immune can develop an allergy to it (and people who are allergic can develop tolerance).  The lesson I take is to be grateful and not flaunt my good fortune (&#8217;cause the day I start ripping it up with my bare hands just to show I can will be the day that luck changes&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Corsen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 14:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is true.  My husband once weed-whacked a patch of poison ivy, got it all over him.  Luckily there was also jewelweed in amongst the poison ivy, which he also got all over him, and he managed to get out of that one itch-free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is true.  My husband once weed-whacked a patch of poison ivy, got it all over him.  Luckily there was also jewelweed in amongst the poison ivy, which he also got all over him, and he managed to get out of that one itch-free.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://therioshamanism.com/2012/04/25/poison-oak-as-totem/#comment-3651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 16:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful reply Sandra, thanks so much!  I didn&#039;t realize the Japanese lacquer tree had the same chemical constituent, very interesting!  I wouldn&#039;t build up immunity in that way either, I would start with Rhus Tox (Homeopathy), since the doses are quite diluted.  One of my friends who has lots of this in her yard would take a dose before working in her garden and when she did, she never got a rash!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful reply Sandra, thanks so much!  I didn&#8217;t realize the Japanese lacquer tree had the same chemical constituent, very interesting!  I wouldn&#8217;t build up immunity in that way either, I would start with Rhus Tox (Homeopathy), since the doses are quite diluted.  One of my friends who has lots of this in her yard would take a dose before working in her garden and when she did, she never got a rash!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Baker</title>
		<link>http://therioshamanism.com/2012/04/25/poison-oak-as-totem/#comment-3650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandra Baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 01:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa, native american tribes that lived in poison ivy/oak country were exposed to the plants constantly. Many probably developed allergies at an early age, driven with what&#039;s called the &quot;effector system.&quot; This would go on indefinitely, but the &quot;regulatory system&quot; finally shuts the fire down.&quot; But, with constant exposure, after time, its possible for the &quot;regulatory system&quot; to become stronger and you can develop a tolerance, or at least not react as strongly over time, providing your exposure continues. The immune system is extremely complicated, and not completely understood yet.

A study many many-years ago on infants who had never been exposed to poison ivy (in an institution for developmentally disabled) showed that if they were fed poison ivy extract directly into their stomachs, they would develop a life-long tolerance.    

In Japan, China, Korea, the Japanese lacquer tree has the same allergenic oil (urushiol) with subtle chemicals differences that make it a good medium to create the famous lacquerware. The lacquer painters can come to the occupation with sensitivity, but most over time lose it, and when they leave temporarily for a vacation for example, they might eat some of the urushiol paint while gone. 

Nobody should eat a leaf of poison oak/ivy on a whim though, because you could get a raging head to toe case.

ps, most articles on the internet on poison oak/ivy/sumac have many wrong statements, because the author copied from other wrong articles instead of finding clinical studies. 

My credentials: I wrote &quot;The Poison Oak &amp; Poison Ivy Survival Guide.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, native american tribes that lived in poison ivy/oak country were exposed to the plants constantly. Many probably developed allergies at an early age, driven with what&#8217;s called the &#8220;effector system.&#8221; This would go on indefinitely, but the &#8220;regulatory system&#8221; finally shuts the fire down.&#8221; But, with constant exposure, after time, its possible for the &#8220;regulatory system&#8221; to become stronger and you can develop a tolerance, or at least not react as strongly over time, providing your exposure continues. The immune system is extremely complicated, and not completely understood yet.</p>
<p>A study many many-years ago on infants who had never been exposed to poison ivy (in an institution for developmentally disabled) showed that if they were fed poison ivy extract directly into their stomachs, they would develop a life-long tolerance.    </p>
<p>In Japan, China, Korea, the Japanese lacquer tree has the same allergenic oil (urushiol) with subtle chemicals differences that make it a good medium to create the famous lacquerware. The lacquer painters can come to the occupation with sensitivity, but most over time lose it, and when they leave temporarily for a vacation for example, they might eat some of the urushiol paint while gone. </p>
<p>Nobody should eat a leaf of poison oak/ivy on a whim though, because you could get a raging head to toe case.</p>
<p>ps, most articles on the internet on poison oak/ivy/sumac have many wrong statements, because the author copied from other wrong articles instead of finding clinical studies. </p>
<p>My credentials: I wrote &#8220;The Poison Oak &amp; Poison Ivy Survival Guide.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://therioshamanism.com/2012/04/25/poison-oak-as-totem/#comment-3648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 06:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting that I was in an herb class online tonight, the topic being kids outdoors - and you know this subject came up! :-)  This is one of the most thoughtful posts I have seen anywhere on this topic!  I would also say it has something to do with our own immune systems (again, a boundary issue) as I find it interesting that many native tribes can pick it with their bare hands and cook/eat it!  On the feminine demonizing, I thought also of one of the Batman rivals, Poison Ivy - gives a deeper take on what her character could be about.  (Now I am thinking of Uma Thurman in those great campy costumes!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that I was in an herb class online tonight, the topic being kids outdoors &#8211; and you know this subject came up! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   This is one of the most thoughtful posts I have seen anywhere on this topic!  I would also say it has something to do with our own immune systems (again, a boundary issue) as I find it interesting that many native tribes can pick it with their bare hands and cook/eat it!  On the feminine demonizing, I thought also of one of the Batman rivals, Poison Ivy &#8211; gives a deeper take on what her character could be about.  (Now I am thinking of Uma Thurman in those great campy costumes!)</p>
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		<title>By: therioshamanism</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[therioshamanism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 09:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are most welcome, and thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are most welcome, and thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: therioshamanism</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[therioshamanism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 09:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you! This rounds out my understanding of those plants even more!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! This rounds out my understanding of those plants even more!</p>
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